Show Details as a Table

November 4, 2010 11:27AM

Is there any way to ensure the details table that is displayed (when I right click and select Show Details as a Table) is consistent. To design the table seems hit and miss at the moment. I usually add a table to a tab, select the fields I want displayed, then delete the table and hey-presto the details tab is as I want. The trouble is that as soon as I change any table views on that tab my details table changes and I have to do the same again. I distribute IOK files to viewers so if I have maybe 20 or so tabs that all need checking then it can become quite tiresome. Are there any short-cuts?

I have the same problem in 2.6b425 however I can't get the table design to change at all! If I add a new table, show all fields, remove any aggregation and then delete the table, when I right click and do show details it hasn't changed!

Thanks for any help or advice.

steve · November 4, 2010 11:50AM

The multi-record Details table shows the same field set as the "default table view" - i.e. the last table view you made a change to. This works in 2.6. If you can't get this to work, please post an example file here and we'll investigate.

tjbate · November 4, 2010 6:03PM

I manage this on each tab by adding a final Table View using the free floating window option on the Add View drop-down. The floating Table View can then be configured as if it was the multi-record Details pop-up, and then closed. Since this will should be the last Table View configured on the tab, its settings will be picked up by the multi-record Details pop-up, even though the floating Table View itself is no longer part of the tab opening configuration.

Mees · November 4, 2010 8:04PM

tom, when using your suggestion my existing table on the tab is changing as well.

Situation: I have one table with aggregated data, columns A to G.

The Multiple Record Details view must show data that is not aggregated and showing columns X, Y and Z.

When adding a (temporarily) free floating table and configure as described above (with columns X, Y and Z), my existing permanent table is changed as well. Something I don't want.

How can we configure the Multiple Record Details view without changing existing tables? And how can we differentiate in aggregation levels?

tjbate · November 5, 2010 6:55PM

Andrew- That sounds like a bug, can you send me your file, random-sampled and scrambled if you like

steve · November 6, 2010 10:38AM

Tom, I have Andrew's file, and will investigate next week.

steve · November 8, 2010 11:16AM

There was a fault with Omniscope 2.6 b432 and earlier preventing the "last configured table view" behaviour from working. This has been fixed in b433 onwards, which should be available from tonight (although the Content view is currently unstable).

In a future version (2.7, I hope), we will allow you to configure the Details table explicitly.

steve · January 3, 2011 1:27PM

One possible enhancement that would solve this issue and more:

Allow you to configure a view to be used for popup details, separately for multi- and single- record details.

Then, when you choose to view details, a "temporary query" is created for the selected data, and a popup view is shown with "Subset: ", for example. When you close the view, the query disappears.

This would allow you to, for example, use the existing Details view for single-record details (making the existing popup details window redundant), and the Map view for multi-record details.

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steve · January 3, 2012 7:56AM

See also a related idea about configuring a view embedded within tooltips:
http://forums.visokio.com/discussion/302/hover-plots

walsh · January 31, 2012 9:28AM

The feature referred to early in this thread (where the "Details-on-demand popup window" inherits the configuration of the "last configured table view") appears not to be working in v2.7 b220 - correct?

Is there some way to configure the details table explicitly, as Steve hinted above, that I've missed?

I've configured a table with the fields in the order I'd like to see them, selected "Apply settings to all Table views", but I'm still not getting the details table to show the fields I need to show. It always shows all fields.

mustafa · January 31, 2012 3:27PM

Can you post a sample file?

As I have just tried on my end, last table view configuration works fine. The details as table shows the last table view configuration.

walsh · January 31, 2012 4:29PM

I've just experimented with this and have found something odd. When I configure the fields in a table view and then open the details-as-table, I get the expected view with the field set that I've just configured. However, if I then click "Apply settings to all Table views" in the Tools menu of the table view, the details-as-table reverts to showing all fields in the default order.

This is not the behaviour I would have expected. Can you confirm that it your test file behaves like this?

mustafa · February 1, 2012 6:56AM

We will investigate the problem and get back to you.

mustafa · February 2, 2012 1:03PM

Kevin, the problem you have mentioned in your last post should be fixed from tonight's release of Omniscope 2.7 b227+

walsh · February 3, 2012 2:32PM

Thanks Mustafa. I downloaded b227, configured a Table view and clicked Apply setting to all Table views. I got an error: Application Error: An error occurred during event dispatching. I've sent the error report to your support@ mailbox.

mustafa · February 6, 2012 5:46AM

Kevin, I have sent you an email about the crash you have encountered.

mustafa · February 7, 2012 8:57AM

The crash mentioned above has been fixed from 2.7 b231 onwards.

walsh · February 8, 2012 9:18AM

Looks good. Thanks, Mustafa.

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